"Caffeinated tea, which contains natural tannins, is a mild diuretic and long used by grandmothers and runway models for reducing eye puffiness. Soak two tea bags in warm water, then chill the bags for a few minutes in the refrigerator. Place one tea bag on each eye for five minutes, and your eyes will feel fresh and look brighter," says Karen Hammerman, a dermatologist in New York City.
I’ve purchased rollers from Amazon for as little as $16. Benjamin actually chided me a little for this; though, as with anything I purchase from that vast marketplace, I pay close attention to reviews before pulling the trigger. Still, it might be wiser to buy something from a more verified retailer, like Benjamin’s own Stacked Skincare. You’ll want to replace your microroller after a few uses.
HORRRRIBLEEE!!! I recieved by box with the nail polish already shattered and damaging every single product in the box so I emailed TWICE asking nicely for a replacement or for a refund and I got no reply so when I finally called after 6 days of no response the woman on the phone didn't so much as even fake apologize she just said "okay you're cancelled" and that was all. Rude and I'll be telling everyone I know. I also referred a bunch of people who signed up and then after this I got them all to cancel and will be telling everyone I can to not waste their money/time. Simple customer service skills could have gone a long way. Damaged items are an easy fix but the people they have replying to emails and phone calls are the real damaged items.
If you're looking for a non-retinol option, RoC Multi Correxion Lift Anti-Gravity Day Moisturizer SPF 30 fills the bill. Lab analysis showed it was tops at improving texture and one of the best at diminishing spots. Women found it matched the gold winner at reducing fine lines. "I feel like the fine lines around my eyes have diminished a little," said one. "I have noticed a glow about my face. My husband has even complimented me," weighed in another. To boost the benefit, apply your moisturizer with sunscreen all the way down to the collarbone or chest.

Hello. I subscribed to allure beauty box just about a week ago. I understand it takes time to send out boxes and things can hectic during holiday season. However I believe that when people are paying money every month for a service there needs to be at least reliable customer service and communication. I sent an email to their customer care and did not get any response within 48 hrs as it is stated. I subscribed to other beauty boxes and so far they at least answered promptly and kept me up to date in the service. I wish I had read all these reviews since I am getting an impression that their customer service is pretty bad.

BONUS: Unfortunately, skin problems often strike regardless of our age. If, like so many of us, you find yourself struggling with the pitfalls of acne and wrinkles at the same time, then the Baebody Retinol Moisturizer Cream may soon become your new best friend. While it is not specifically indicated for use on acne, it contains many ingredients such as retinol and vitamin E which can reduce the severity and occurrence of spots.

Protect your skin from the sun. Exposure to UV light speeds up the natural aging process of your skin, causing wrinkles and rough, blotchy skin. In fact, sun exposure is the No. 1 reason for signs of aging in the skin, including uneven pigmentation. Protect your skin — and prevent future wrinkles — by limiting the time you spend in the sun and always wearing protective clothing and a hat. Also, use sunscreen on exposed skin year-round when outdoors.
No, I’m not surprised, Angelina wants it all, custody, child support, the claims she made have never been proven and it hurts the children when you make a parent out to be the bad one (if they are bad the kids will figure that out, mine did). For someone like her to fight over child support when middle class and poor women are doing it all on their own is nauseating. No one except they know what happened in their family but for a billionaire to fight over money is nauseating.

I don’t think Sunday Riley does much of anything either. Used that C cream, lactic serum, luna oil. It does nothing. I usually use much more clinical brands or spa brands that actually work, so that may be why (Skin Medica/Glymed/Revision, etc). Anything department store brand, or drugstore brand has much lower %s of active ingredient and takes much longer to show any result.
People are saying that Allure is supposed to get them on the 7th and they will ship with the Jan boxes. I think it’s funny that it seems like they waited an extra long time to send these out to weed out the scammers who only got the one box for the high-priced free goodie. I have had allure for over a year, and I cancelled after the Nov box bc I wasn’t interested in the Dec box. So when this promo popped up, I said what the heck and resigned back up. I got a second Nov box, which came in handy for extras in gifts at Christmas, and ended up really liking the Dec box. I haven’t gotten the CEO yet, but if they do end up sending it with the Jan box, I’ll be pleasantly surprised. If I don’t get it, oh well. I still got my money’s worth and then some.
Alas, under-eye bags are not a feature that improves with age. Now, many people get dark circles when they have a bad night’s sleep–occasionally, but not severely. I’ve had a combination of under-eye bags *and* dark circles since college. If you’re wondering what that even looks like, imagine curtain valances (the half-moon drapes that top your curtains). Thank you, Dad.

We began our search for the best wrinkle cream by pulling top-sellers from major retailers like Walgreens, Amazon, and Target, compiling a list of 112 creams, gels, and serums — everything from high end brands like Estee Lauder and Lancome to drugstore staples like Neutrogena and L’Oreal. From here, we reached out to cosmetic chemists and dermatologists: We wanted to find out which ingredients would help skin look youthful, and which weren’t worth the hype.
Rivera says that storing your eye cream in the fridge can help to temporarily reduce the look of under-eye bags and dark circles. When they’re cold, eye creams can cause short-term vasoconstriction (meaning tightening of blood vessels), which can be beneficial for those with puffy eyes or dark circles. When you’re ready to use your eye cream, take it out of the fridge and apply it in small dots around your eye until it’s absorbed.

Consider retinol the gold standard in skincare. Lasers aside, it's the most-trusted ingredient that derms turn to to trigger skin regeneration. Specifically, it helps speed cell turnover and boost collagen and elastin production (two proteins responsible for skin firmness) to keep you fine line-free. Smooth on this gentle, effective cream nightly after you cleanse your face.
Creams are a favourite treatment type for under eye bags as they are efficient and easy to integrate into your daily beauty routine. The only issue is making sure you choose the right cream. Look out for creams that contain caffeine and hyaluronic acid, as these tend to be the most effective. Caffeine helps to tighten skin, reduce puffiness and drain excess fluid from the area, while hyaluronic acid plumps and hydrates sagging skin. Remember to use cream consistently for optimum results.
"First of all... What sort of magic is in this container? I have been using the Olay Regenerist night cream for about a year, and I just decided to try this product out. In one week wrinkles are clearing up. Especially in the area of my forehead. I live in a country that is very hot and humid and pores can get clogged easily. This works perfectly. ​​​​​​" —De Bajan Girl
This cream, which contains 100 percent pure green tea ferment extracts, is designed to retain moisture and keep your skin plump and hydrated. Anti-bacterial lemon seed oil and soothing rosewood oil are also a part of this blend and leave your face with a luxurious, velvety finish. You’ll appreciate how moisturized your skin will feel after applying the cream, since it’s not too sticky or heavy.
It can be used as an antiseptic to kill off bacteria (e.g., in acne products), a preservative, a solvent (to dissolve another ingredient) or even a stabilizer, to prevent unwanted reactions). Depending on what type is used, topical alcohol can be a very drying component which can cause your skin to dry out and peel. Over time, this can reduce the resilience of your skin and make it more prone to premature aging.
Dermatologists love the line-up of effective (and bargain-friendly) RoC retinol products; this cream is no exception. Oil-free and noncomedogenic, it's the ideal wrinkle-fighting treatment. Start by using it every other night (since retinol is a potent ingredient). If your skin is on the sensitive side, mixing any retinoid with a dollop of a plain moisturizer can also help cut down on irritation, suggests Debra Jaliman, M.D., assistant professor of dermatology at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai and author of Skin Rules: Trade Secrets from a Top New York Dermatologist.
Under-eye masks or patches directly target your bags with hydrating ingredients, antioxidants and retinol. This pampering treatment reduces inflammation and stimulates collagen growth for refreshed and youthful-looking eyes. It’s also an excellent way to relax after a long day! Follow the instructions on the pack but as a general rule aim for 20 minutes with patches on. After removing you should see immediate results.
This wrinkle cream checked all the boxes on our ingredient wish list, but unfortunately came in the wrong packaging. Unlike squeeze tubes and pump bottles, a jar means that the entire cream is exposed to air, sun, and bacteria every time it’s used. But if you’re sold on the idea of a thick lotion or cream, it’s the closest competitor to the $530 La Prairie.

I REALLY hope it’s a new Wander mascara! I’m getting the Unlashed in my GBP this month. If I receive any of the other extra items other than the Mally lip gloss I’ll be much happier with the February box. I never seem to get lucky with colors on lippies (still trying to laugh about the awful pale lilac/white Smash is lippy I received, I think from Boxy.)
Also in the formula is Vichy’s signature Mineralizing Water. They consider this volcanic water to be a “miracle of nature”, and it’s easy to see why! It is rich in as many as 15 minerals and can give strength to your skin’s natural moisture barrier, which helps your skin protect itself against potential damage. Not only is it completely natural, but it is also impossible to recreate it scientifically. This mineralizing Water is a key ingredient in all of Vichy’s skincare products.

What causes them? The main causes for dark circles are genetics and skin tone, Kenneth Howe, M.D., a board-certified dermatologist at Wexler Dermatology, tells SELF. The under-eye area can look purple or bluish because the skin there is so thin and translucent that you can easily see the underlying veins. It can be more apparent in people with fair skin, and those with very little subcutaneous fat supporting the area under the lower lid. Lack of sleep increases venous congestion; fluid build-up leads to pooled blood in those superficial blood vessels, making dark circles look even darker when you’re tired.
I had a coupon from a friend so I was able to order the box for half price. I enjoyed trying the new products. There were makeup items and fingernail items. It had also more items than I expected. I really only expected 3 or 4 items in the box so I was happy to see so many different items. They were full sized items not just sample sized. This surprised me also. I like that you can cancel for just a month or two if you need to and you don't have to stop your subscription. But I disliked that I had no choice in the type of product or in the final selection. Some items were products that I have never used and will never use.
I have ordered from 3 other box subscriptions, trying each to see which fits me best. I placed an order for the Beauty Box and 6 month magazine subscription together at a discounted rate. After checking out the site and learning that there is no profile to select your skin color/tone or any preferences - I decided this box was not going to be for me. I emailed customer service 4 times asking them to cancel. I got an automatic response each time stating they would get back with me in 3-5 business days. Never happened.
The company submitted data to the FDA from five clinical trials, which revealed moderate improvement in fine wrinkling in only 29 of 279 participants who applied tretinoin and sunscreen (compared with 3% in the control group, which used comprehensive sun protection only). Of those that used sun protection and tretinoin, 76% saw minimal improvement, no change or even worsened (compared to 88% of the control group).  All individuals within these five clinical trials had lighter skin types (Fitzpatrick Skin Types I – III.) A single study of 107 darkly pigmented subjects (Fitzpatrick Skin Types IV-VI) performed even worse. Of subjects who only used comprehensive sun protection, 49% demonstrated minimal or mild improvement in fine facial wrinkling. When compared to subjects who applied tretinoin and sunscreen only 29% showed improvement;
This product is great to wear during the day and at night. After I shower I put Anti-Aging Reviving Day Serum all over my face. I let it dry and than I use the Brickell Restoring Eye Cream. Than i put the Ani-Aging Cream last. At night I just use the Brickell Men's Ani-Aging Cream. I turned 50 this year and I have tried many other brands but if you want a real men's focused products this is the best that I have tried. I am in sales and most people guess I am in my early 40's so if I can slow the the appearance of aging I will. I now use 5 different products from Brickell and I love them. Cheers!

Hyaluronic acid filler injections can plump up the sunken under-eye area. Fillers are priced per syringe, typically between $1,000 and $1,400, and the results can last for a year and a half or up to five years. There are also laser procedures to destroy the superficial blood vessels that are showing through the skin, though experts say tread with caution as the wrong laser can cause hyperpigmentation (or even hypopigmentation, when the area lightens too much). Treatments range between $300 and $500, and may require two or three sessions to see results, plus annual maintenance.


Water, Cetearyl Alcohol, Caprylic/Capric Triglycerides, Glycerin, Ceteareth-20, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea) Butter, Butylene Glycol, Palmitoyl Oligopeptide, Palmitoyl Tetrapeptide-7, PEG-16, Macadamia Glycerides, Octyldodecanol, Ethyhexyl Palmitate, Zea Mays (Corn) Oil, Tocopheryl Acetate, Cholecalciferol, Retinyl Palmitate (Retinol, Vitamin A), Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Pyridoxine HCl(Vitamin B6), Silica, Sodium Propoxyhydroxypropyl Thiosulfate Silica, Carbomer, Polysorbate 20, Dimethicone, Xanthan Gum, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Potassium Sorbate, Hexylene Glycol.
EDITOR’S CHOICE: If you are looking for an effective, but affordable anti-aging cream, look no further than the LiftActiv Supreme. It is made by Vichy – the number 1 anti-aging brand in European pharmacies and is enriched with their signature mineral-rich volcanic water. It also contains a skin-boosting, plant-derived sugar and a powerful antioxidant to improve and promote your skin’s resilience against aging, without blocking your pores and causing breakouts. Vichy gives you the highest standards and has proven to produce long-lasting results in as little as 4 weeks! It sure sounds too good to be true, but the clinical results speak for themselves. This really is a luxurious, effective yet affordable anti-aging cream.
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If you're looking for a non-retinol option, RoC Multi Correxion Lift Anti-Gravity Day Moisturizer SPF 30 fills the bill. Lab analysis showed it was tops at improving texture and one of the best at diminishing spots. Women found it matched the gold winner at reducing fine lines. "I feel like the fine lines around my eyes have diminished a little," said one. "I have noticed a glow about my face. My husband has even complimented me," weighed in another. To boost the benefit, apply your moisturizer with sunscreen all the way down to the collarbone or chest.
"This is the first time I have purchased a cosmetic product solely based on previous reviews. I have sensitive skin so have never tried a retinoid product before. I have nice enough skin but I’m 45 and have a few sun spots. I have been amazed at the change in my complexion. After a week of use 2x/day it looked brighter, more even in tone, almost younger. I have had no dryness, and have even started using it around my eyes with no dryness. Great product!" —Colby

"I've been using this product since my early 40s. I am now 53 and am told I look like I'm in my 30s. It really is the best retinol serum I've ever used. It is a retinol product, so it may sting a bit at first as your skin gets used to it. If that happens I recommend using once a week at first and then stepping up of the frequency until you're able to use it on a daily basis. I have very sensitive skin and this process worked for me." —T.Long

★VITAMIN C and RETINOL – Produced as a naturally occurring organic compound Ascorbic Acid is an anti-oxidant Vitamin C that is an essential nutrient in the production of collagen in the skin. We use Retinyl Palmitate which breaks down into Retinol as it absorbs into the skin, as this reduces the risk of adverse reaction that sometimes occurs to the concentrated form of Retinol.


The best wrinkle cream should be pleasant to put on and wear. You’re committing to a long-term routine, after all. Keeping in mind that everyone’s skin is different, we looked for any glaringly obvious issues in the immediate aftermath of use. Testers found most of the creams delightfully soothing, with textures ranging from the thin serums of The Ordinary to the petroleum jelly consistency of Dermalogica. They typically came with light citrus smells, or no scent at all.
EDITOR’S CHOICE: If you are looking for an effective, but affordable anti-aging cream, look no further than the LiftActiv Supreme. It is made by Vichy – the number 1 anti-aging brand in European pharmacies and is enriched with their signature mineral-rich volcanic water. It also contains a skin-boosting, plant-derived sugar and a powerful antioxidant to improve and promote your skin’s resilience against aging, without blocking your pores and causing breakouts. Vichy gives you the highest standards and has proven to produce long-lasting results in as little as 4 weeks! It sure sounds too good to be true, but the clinical results speak for themselves. This really is a luxurious, effective yet affordable anti-aging cream.

Never start microneedling without slathering on some kind of primer first: Not only does that medium make the treatment feel less harsh on your skin, but also, when you use a great treatment, you’re literally pushing those ingredients deep into your skin for maximum absorption—up to 90% more than you would just by using your fingers and leaving it there. I typically use a serum with additional collagen-boosting ingredients like hyaluronic acid. (Just be sure to avoid super-reactive elements like retinol or vitamin C.)

Is there any new news on the November box & that one-day bonus Sunday Riley CEO? I haven’t had any of my emails (to various addresses) returned. Last I heard (here on MSA, bless you all!) was that people who had managed to get a live person on the phone were told that shipments were lost. I haven’t received my December box, either, tho I haven’t unsubscribed because I still want that Sunday Riley if at all possible. I’m not even as much angry anymore as sad.


Ummm... perhaps it's time you re-educate yourself on the newest medical literature. Nutrition-based science has totally debunked the cholesterol myth. And don't take my word for it, all the biggest names in nutrition agree that eggs are very good for overall human health. This includes Dr David Perlmutter, biohacker Dave Asprey (of Bulletproof fame), writer Michael Pollan, Dr Mark Hyman, Dr Weil, Dr Joseph Mercola... the list is long and exhaustive.
I got an email on the 20th saying I will not be getting this months box because I updated my credit card info. I updated my info on January 2, 2020 and they waited until January 20th to email me I am so not happy. I had to update my credit card because I was hacked over Christmas. I didn’t think when you updated online it takes them almost a month to process. Next time I’ll call if I did I probably would be getting my box.
Did you know that smoking cigarettes dries out and weakens the skin on your face as well as your whole body? It also causes premature aging around the eyes in particular. The chemicals found in cigarettes are toxic and can cause irritation around the eyes, which could result in dark circles or undereye bags in addition to a wrinkled, droopy appearance. If addiction has got you in its grips, you may want to try some natural approaches to quitting smoking.
Over the course of 12 hours I have gotten 3 conflicting emails from Allure regarding my January box. First I was told they cancelled my box and refunded my money, then they told me they are running behind and i will get in next week, then i get an oopsie we sent you wrong information i have been charged and they will send out a tracking number next week.

For best results thoroughly cleanse your face and apply a serum first and rub in until absorbed then take a small amount of the Anti Aging Cream on your finger and massage into your skin in a circular motion until it is fully rubbed in, if you need to add more, do so, a little at a time. Please make sure you Avoid direct contact with your eyes and do not swallow.
Wrinkle creams that come in tubes or pump-tops can be stored in a medicine cabinet or drawer with the rest of your cosmetics. But if you do opt for a wrinkle cream in a jar, we’d suggest the following precautions: Wash your hands thoroughly or use a clean applicator wand for each use, and keep your cream in the fridge (bacteria grow more slowly in the cold).

Ummm... perhaps it's time you re-educate yourself on the newest medical literature. Nutrition-based science has totally debunked the cholesterol myth. And don't take my word for it, all the biggest names in nutrition agree that eggs are very good for overall human health. This includes Dr David Perlmutter, biohacker Dave Asprey (of Bulletproof fame), writer Michael Pollan, Dr Mark Hyman, Dr Weil, Dr Joseph Mercola... the list is long and exhaustive.

★VITAMIN C and RETINOL – Produced as a naturally occurring organic compound Ascorbic Acid is an anti-oxidant Vitamin C that is an essential nutrient in the production of collagen in the skin. We use Retinyl Palmitate which breaks down into Retinol as it absorbs into the skin, as this reduces the risk of adverse reaction that sometimes occurs to the concentrated form of Retinol.
Cynthia is the assistant editor and frequent contributor. She’s originally from California, but has lived in many countries including South Korea, China and Germany. She currently lives with her husband in Minnesota. Cynthia is passionate about helping families find the best advice for family life and safety. Cynthia also has experience in early childhood education and holds a TEFL-C certificate from Teachers College, Columbia University. She has been writing about family-focused topics, advice and trends since 2014.
At TODAY we take care to recommend items we hope you’ll enjoy! Just so you know, TODAY may get a small share of the revenue. Using interviews with specialists, online reviews and personal experience, TODAY editors, writers and experts take care to recommend items we really like and hope you’ll enjoy! TODAY does have affiliate relationships with various online retailers. So, while every product is independently selected, if you buy something through our links, we may get a small share of the revenue.
AHAs save the day by dissolving lipids, the adhesive that clings to old cells. This exfoliation process allows old cells to be sloughed away and alerts our bodies to make new cells as a replacement, resulting in fresher, younger-looking skin. There are many types of AHAs in nature, but glycolic acid and lactic acid have the ability to penetrate skin, so those are the two we targeted to find the best anti-aging cream.

You definitely have to try adding boxycharm. The products are always full size and you get five products for $21. Even if you don’t like a couple of the products it’s over the value of what you pay for it. And we get brushes like every other month it seems like. Allure hasn’t been too bad. It’s like $16 and you get some full size and some sample size. This month is a special Kat Von D box that has a full size of the lip liner a full size of her liquid lipstick and a full size walnut scrub. I am excited. Ipsy is Nice, you do get some brushes in them. I generally feel like I get lower end samples though. And I got a product I hate twice in a row even after I gave it a bad review. You do get some full size products in it. I did get a tarte blush in a pretty good size. They are worth a shot too. Birchbox is great for skin care. You will get a couple of makeup products, but mostly skin care.
"If dark, puffy [bags under your eyes] seem to be the morning problem, consider sleeping on your back with an extra pillow so that fluid doesn't pool overnight. Keeping your pillow protected from allergens (dust and dust mites) with a protective encasement can also help when allergies are the culprit," says Rebecca Tung, a dermatologist in La Grange Park, Illinois.
The vasoconstriction from products with caffeine can reduce puffiness, and cooling products can help reduce inflammation and promote blood flow. But keep in mind that any benefit you see is temporary. A metal roller ball—either on its own or as the applicator of an eye cream or serum—can gently distribute lymphatic build-up, helping it drain from underneath the eyes while also cooling the inflammation.

The term "beauty sleep" gets thrown around all the time, but, turns out, it's a very real thing. While you sleep, your skin kicks into high gear, undergoing a long list of natural processes to help it repair and regenerate. Plus, "while you sleep, cortisol is at its lowest and anti­-inflammatory molecules like beta­ endorphins and growth hormones are at their highest, so that's when skin heals," says Amy Wechsler, M.D., a psych-derm in New York City. As a reminder, low levels of cortisol (the stress hormone) are a very good thing for your skin, since the hormone does everything from increase inflammation to up the likelihood of breakouts. So pull a few all-nighters or super-early mornings in a row, and you'll quickly see this lack of sleep show up on your face.
Vitamin A and its derivatives (retinoids) are the most prevalent anti-aging ingredients on the market today. Tretinoin, a retinoid approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), is only available by prescription. And although there is ample scientific evidence that shows the ability of retinoids to have a positive effect on cell gene rearrangements, fibroblast activity, and collagen synthesis, studies proving cosmetic benefits with statistical significance are lacking.

Hello. I subscribed to allure beauty box just about a week ago. I understand it takes time to send out boxes and things can hectic during holiday season. However I believe that when people are paying money every month for a service there needs to be at least reliable customer service and communication. I sent an email to their customer care and did not get any response within 48 hrs as it is stated. I subscribed to other beauty boxes and so far they at least answered promptly and kept me up to date in the service. I wish I had read all these reviews since I am getting an impression that their customer service is pretty bad.
I subscribed to the Beauty Box and they took the money out and for 2 weeks I didn't get any sort of confirmation. So I emailed them and 1 week later they responded with just saying it will soon be shipped out. The following month I still didn't receive it and all they said was, "Sorry for inconvenience but it was shipped and nothing we can do at this point." My friend received her box and the bag was broken and one other product and they never replaced it. I cancelled my subscription and went through my bank to get my money back because they did not even respond after that.

“Vitamin C is a powerful antioxidant that can rid the skin of harmful free radicals,” says Dr. Tzu. Free radicals are damaging molecules that come from pollution, cigarette smoke and light. “Vitamin C is also an important cofactor for the synthesis of collagen [a protein that keeps skin elastic and helps skin cells renew themselves] and the structural foundation of the skin.”
Don't let the water gel formula of this product fool you. The Neutrogena Hydro Boost Gel restores moisture and helps plump the under-eye area with hyaluronic acid. This product may be beneficial with people who have oily skin. "Many moisturizers are too heavy or can cause acne [for people with oily skin], which is why I love hyaluronic acid gels," says dermatologist Dr. William Kwan.
Is there any new news on the November box & that one-day bonus Sunday Riley CEO? I haven’t had any of my emails (to various addresses) returned. Last I heard (here on MSA, bless you all!) was that people who had managed to get a live person on the phone were told that shipments were lost. I haven’t received my December box, either, tho I haven’t unsubscribed because I still want that Sunday Riley if at all possible. I’m not even as much angry anymore as sad.
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